Episode #4 – Craig Phoenix Tells Us How To Pick Up While Holding Down a 9-5 Job

What a great podcast.

Fresh off the plane from speaking at the Real Man Conference in Germany we invite in Craig Phoenix from directseduction.co.uk. Another old friend of the Daygame Podcast crew, Craig spoke with us at the RMC, but his talk was very unique in that he broke down how he finds the time and motivation to do daygame despite holding down a full-time stressful job.

We also talk about Craig’s own perspective on what direct game is, and how everyone should aspire towards it. We at Daygame.com couldn’t agree more, it is definitely the way to go!

Enjoy the podcast!


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Podcast Notes

Episode 4

  • Topics covered
  • Introducing Craig
  • Having a Proactive Mentality
  • Having a Passion
  • Being Direct and Honest
  • Being Decisive and Authoritative
  • Reframing Daygame
  • The Vibe of your House

Content Summary

What a great podcast.

Fresh off the plane from speaking at the Real Man Conference in Germany, we have invited in Craig Phoenix from directseduction.co.uk. Craig is another old friend of the Daygame podcast crew, who we have invited down to tell us about holding down a stressful job, and still getting time to go out and do Daygame.

We also get Craig’s perspective of what direct game is, and how everyone should aspire towards it. We at Daygame.com couldn’t agree more, as it is definitely the way to go!

As well as running directseduction.com, Craig is also the managing director of a photography company. He is definitely someone who we can all learn a lot from, in regards to balancing a high-octane job, and going out and meeting people.

There are so many opportunities that we have every single day to meet new people, and practice our Daygame. Getting on the tube to and from work everyday, our lunch breaks, and anytime that we’re generally walking somewhere, are all examples of opportunities that we have every single day to meet girls. Whenever you have to do something, if at all possibly, you should go and do it where there will be the best possible chance of meeting new people. If you want to work out, instead of staying in and doing it in your bedroom, go out and meet some people in a gym. If you’re having lunch, don’t eat in your office; go to the nearest coffee shop or restaurant. The main problem that most guys have when faced with a beautiful girl in this type of situation is the ‘there is always tomorrow’ mentality.

Most working guys try to start doing Daygame by telling themselves that after having finished work, gone home, changed, showered, eaten, and fed the cat… that then it will be time to go out and practice. The problem with this is that it gives you ample time to make excuses and change your mind. The best way to overcome this is to take some casual clothes with you to work, and go out as soon as you’re finished. Make sure that you make every moment count with whatever time you give yourself. To do this, you should go direct, and if a set isn’t going the way you’d planned, move on and start another one. Set yourself realistic targets for the time that you’re out, such as 2 numbers and an instant date in 2 hours. By pushing the boundaries like this and fighting the inertia of comfort, you will always be moving forward, and progressing.

When you are working, turn off Facebook and any other distractions, so that you can get more done, so that you won’t be worrying about anything work-related when you’re going out. By getting more work done, you’re going to be in a better mood, and without anything looming over you, you are able to leave everything behind in work, so that you can go out and just have fun. When you get out of work, you need to snap out of ‘work mode’, because you are a pickup artist hitting the streets. You need to view daygame as a treat, because that’s what it is!

If you want to be successful in both your business and dating lives, then you have to have a streamlined approach to how you are going about your day.

In regards to what attitudes you can develop, one that is often overlooked is our ability to be decisive. It’s better to make the wrong decision, that to just amble along doing nothing. Once you get a little more confident with approaching girls, you might want to try something a little more bold, such as grabbing a girls wrist and spinning her around before saying your opener. Doing something different is the only way that you are going to get better. Whatever feels congruent with your nature, whether its doing something unapologetic and bold, or just being honest and direct, you know you can do it.

The final thing I want to talk about is the vibe of your house. It’s imperative to have a clean and tidy house, as it is a reflection of the way you live. A general rule for the layout is that every room should have a centrepiece, whether it’s a TV, sofa, table or ornament. Another great idea is to have pictures and artwork that reveal a little bit about you, which people will ask you about, opening up conversations.

To conclude, be congruent, be yourself, be honest, be direct, and make sure that you make every moment of your day count. Every single one of us only has 24 hours in a day, so make them worthwhile by getting out there on the streets and meet the girl of your dreams.

I hope you all enjoyed the podcast,

Andy

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24 comments ... read them below or add one
  • this podcast is cool and v.helpful

  • Looking forward to this!

  • Cool, good podcast.
    An intesting point, how do you fit this stuff into you life? If you want to be really good then you need to practice, which takes a lot of time and effort. However if it is what you really want then you will find a way to do daygame.
    Most of the time I just make excuses and as a result I do not go out some weeks and do some daygame, but then I am not getting the results I want. Time to make the change.
    Keep up the work guys.
    Sober Minnie has made a come back (cool).

  • And that story about Yad is the funniest things ever, and he was still trying to opener her, despite being on the ground with his trousers down.

    I think that you should do a podcast or part of one with your worst approches and respones ever.

    Knowing the best outthere have done stuff like that it will give us all hope.

  • Really loved this podcast guys, best one so far!
    Next time could have been a bot more structured as i felt that every one was just talking in but i thought that the content was great.

    I have a normal job and can totally relate to what Craig was saying about doing your work and then going sarging. The guy knows what he wants in life.

  • AFC Oldman  »  April 15, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Great podcast, especially the part about Yad being on the floor and still trying to open. It’s not a failure, it’s a funny story to tell your mates. If something like that happened to me I’d tell everyone and be proud of it for not giving up and being embarassed.

  • AFC Oldman  »  April 15, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Also about the whole Entourage thing, I thought Vincent Chase (the main character) is a good guy to imitate, not the way he acts, but how his inner-game is. How he perceive things. He’s always laid back, and is not too worried about anything. At one point his whole career is in the shitter and he’s all relaxed and is like: “Don’t worry, it’ll be ok, it’ll work itself out. It always does.”

    And when he loses a fortune he’s like: “It’s ok, we’ll live in a smaller house. The luxuries are great and all, but I really don’t need them to be happy, all I need are my boys.”

  • Great podcast and some very useful stuff. Is it easy to download these?

    Question: I think its hard to go from not doing much day game to going direct right off the bat.
    I know Craig started by doing indirect. Should you start indirect and make it a gradual process as you begin to get more confident opening during the day?

  • Craig = PUA Legend

    Best podcast ever!

  • I love the perspective that meeting girls is a good reward after a hard day’s work.
    We are all here because we like women eh? They are fun and make us feel good.

    I’m trying to get in the habit of putting myself out there more, Jerry Seinfeld of all people has been a big help with this.
    He has this strategy called “don’t break the chain” where he writes one joke every day and marks it down on a calendar. The idea is to make as big a chain of days as possible, not wanting to break your streak becomes motivation.

    My chain is simple right now, everyday I talk to a new random girl. There are apps and websites that keep track, give it a google.

  • SEBBO_LICIOUS  »  April 17, 2010 at 3:41 am

    Love your podcasts and this one is no exception.
    Anyway since you guys have recently been to Germany and well I’m from there, maybe you could help me out a bit. I really believe in what you’re offering (though I didn’t have a chance to test it all out…*exams* :-( ) but my mate just keeps on saying that it’s just not possible in our country since german girls are not so superficial and generally more serious. I think thats almost completely rubbish, but I’d really love to know if you guys had any experience with the german ladies :-)

  • I think Craig got the wrong end of the stick with this “Fake it ’til you make it” idea. The point is not to make up some absurd lies about yourself to impress the girls, “fake it til you make it” is focused around confidence.

    If you are not yet a confident speaker, perhaps a bit insecure, you can still see how actual confident people act. Look at movie stars like Brad Pitt, Colin Farrell, the aforementioned Ari Gold or just some charismatic friend that you may have. How do they hold themselves, how do they speak, what is their mentality etc. You can then use these yourself, and pretend to be a confident person. The more you take on this role as a confident person, the more these personality traits are absorbed into you and you become congruent with it.

    Just thought I’d clear that up because I think it could be useful for people.

    • stonecastle  »  April 17, 2010 at 7:41 pm

      No i think that it’s perfectly ok to lie, I’ve been doing daygame for nearly twenty years now, and if you tell women you’re homeless they lose interest. Especially the high value blonde or Russian ones. You should definitely lie to cover up things like being homeless. This one time I told a girl I was an actor and we ended up making out. But when she found out I was homeless she lost interest.

  • Yay you did the summary thing! Very useful, thanks.

    Another great podcast. Roll on #5.

  • Davie Boy  »  April 21, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Awesome Pod Cast..Does Craig do any bootcamps with Daygame.com??????????????

  • I thought these podcasts were once a week? C’mon guys, these are the best part of the website! Don’t let us down!

  • Sammy Lee  »  May 7, 2010 at 3:51 am

    My new favorite podcast. What is the name of that rap song?

  • Seems like the podcast is down .. Can’t stream or download it :(

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